Kapil Sibal Shoots 80% minimum in 12th Board Exams for IIT Aspirants

 

Securing of 60 percent marks in class XII will not be sufficient for those aspiring for IITs from 2011 as the criteria is being revised wherein higher percentage would be required which will be taken into account unlike the practice now.

The government on Monday appointed a committee of IIT directors to suggest the revised entrance system under which marks obtained in class XII will be given importance along with the entrance marks.

 

Why?

The move is aimed at ensuring that students take their class XII seriously and checking the growth of coaching centres, which are thriving on imparting coaching to students for IIT entrance, HRD Minister Kapil Sibal said.

"The present criteria is that students need to secure 60 per cent at class XII for appearing in IIT-JEE. This is not acceptable. The minimum marks required for IIT-JEE could be raised up to 80 to 85 percent," Sibal told reporters after a meeting of the IIT Council, the apex decision making body for the elite institutes, here.

At the same time he added that the decision about the required percentage will be taken by the committee.

 

We Want to get Rid of Coaching Centers...

"The coaching centres are giving training for the IIT entrance. As a result, the students are not studying seriously for class XII exam and giving more attention to entrance. We want to get rid of the coaching centres by giving more weightage to the board exam," Sibal said.

The IIT-JEE system was revised three years ago when the eligibility criteria was raised to 60 percent at class XII level for appearing in the entrance.

Sibal said a three-member committee has been set up to look into the curriculum and submit its report within three months, suggesting required changes.

The committee comprises Science and Technology Secretary T Ramasami, Secretary Department of Biotechnology M K Bhan and CSIR Director General Samir Brahmachari.

The committee will deliberate on new age courses to be started by the IITs. Sibal has been insisting that the IITs could explore starting courses in Humanities and Medicine also. The committee will give its report by January.

Besides, the government has decided to change the eligibility of students for availing the merit-cum-means scholarship being given at the end of class XII. The income criteria, which was Rs two lakh per annum as family income, has been changed to Rs 4.5 lakh.

To attract more foreign students, the government will reduce the fee structure for students from SAARC and African countries, Sibal said.

 

A Message to Kapil Sibal from an IIT Aspirant:

This is an unacceptable proposal. What do they think students are? Learning machines? They expect us to be good students in boards as well as prepare for IIT-JEE at the same time, the latter having a humongous syllabus and the most difficult exam in the world? And what’s with the "Get rid of coaching institutes" bull talk? They expect us to prepare for JEEs all by ourselves AND cope up with school-schedule ((most of them hardly co-operate with JEE aspirants and demand we pay great attention to hardly useful or productive activities in the name of "extra-curricular")) AND do very nicely in board exams.

This is a stupid idea based on ignorant notions and almost inhumane expectations from students. People who approve of it are no more than pseudo-intellectual dumb asses who have only one mugged up filmy line about students is that they should pay more attention to their studies and work hard and do whatever the system wants them to no matter how realistically possible it is.

Most of the teachers in almost all schools in India are hardly qualified to teach the ABCs for JEEs and, most of them just come in babble out mugged up lines and leave the classroom hardly caring about whether students have understood the topic or not. They are not dust compared to coaching institutes' teachers and this Sibal calls the latter "shops", maybe he is just insecure that there are institutions on which students rely that are not under his control

Most of the schools consume up students' time with unnecessary 100% unproductive and unfruitful activities and subjects that we will hardly have any use for and there are idiots who think it should be easy for an aspirant to get 80-85% marks in boards.

The naive shit-heads who think mugging-up is not necessary to get 85% in boards while preparing IIT-JEEs syllabus need to wake up and get a reality check.

 

 Source : Times of India

 

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Gaurav Khede
0 # Gaurav Khede 2012-05-16 14:34
8) Oh, then students are reading 24 hours in a day and more competition for top
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Harsh Pandey
0 # Harsh Pandey 2012-05-10 22:03
These are stupid ideas of yours Mr. Sibal jee... These ideas leads to burden on students and leads to suicide.. This idea shall be a wireless murder of students...
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Vishant
0 # Vishant 2012-05-05 20:54
Mr. Sibal give atleast 50% weightage to 12 board and 70% for qualifying for iit exam.

ITs BEST !!

BELIEVE ME
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ishank goel
0 # ishank goel 2012-05-03 16:08
mr. sibbal you should think first that students who cant score more than 60% they will think to score 65% but not 80% so they cant do iit ithink you should again
:zzz :zzz :eek:
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kanchan kumari
0 # kanchan kumari 2012-05-01 23:47
Mr.sible you should change your mind iit is knowledge based exam not mugging of book it will leads to shortage of intelligent student for iit jee............ ............... ............... .............
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preeti
0 # preeti 2012-05-01 23:41
we would not accept this ............... ......sorry.... ...............
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preeti
0 # preeti 2012-05-01 23:37
it is totally stupid ............
minister should not use their power like mad man ...........
we student of jharkhand board hardly get 60-65% in spite of hard work whole year ............... ......if we are not allow to join iit it means it is only for those student who have money to learn in costly cbse school......................................
ti is not the way to teach poor ..............l ike us............. ...........
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Harbhajan singh
0 # Harbhajan singh 2012-04-30 20:27
Mr kapil Sibal you have no right to with students future
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yash
+1 # yash 2012-04-19 23:30
still cannot understand how increasing board percent can really bring down the importance of coaching classes........ .....on the other hand it will raise their importance especially those classes which have hybrid college system......... .....
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Manoj Chansoria
0 # Manoj Chansoria 2012-04-15 12:54
It is a very gud idea provided something can be done about the level of education in schools. If the screening system includes a qualification requirement of atleast 90% to 95% marks in class 12th and above for teachers, this could work the other thing is uniform syllabus for all
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IITAXpress
0 # IITAXpress 2012-04-04 00:16
What is this?
It is nothing less then deppletion of education in India,
Kapil Sibbal wants to produce Chaturs{Bookwor m}From the developing Country To bang the education system.

He wants student to read Board instead of IIT JEE syllabi which is World's Hardest Exam.
and wants decide future of India..

How can an Lawyer can Decide Engineering Aspect......... ..!
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Abhyudaya Anand Mish
0 # Abhyudaya Anand Mish 2012-03-07 09:35
Absolutely correct. This would surely give rise to more coaching institutes and if Kapil Sibbal proposes this idea, why not first take an iitjee for the teachers that teach the same syllabus in schools. If even 40% of them qualify in getting a position, we, the students are ready for the challenge.
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SHASHWAT SHIVAM
0 # SHASHWAT SHIVAM 2011-12-20 05:31
oo bhai sibal jaada smart mat ban be chirkut saale apne din yaad kar jab tu 12th ki board mein ragra kha raha tha agar koi us samein minister banne ke liye 90 se 95 % ka baat karta to tujhe kaisa lagta re chirkut??? answer
Smile Wink Laugh Grin Angry Sad Shocked Cool Tongue Kiss Cry aur jo karna hai karo lekin plzz buddhe dude dont try this or i will surely suicide i swear sibal i swear
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tensed one
-1 # tensed one 2011-11-23 12:57
sibbal maharaj
chain se jeene do
sab kuchh hamare hi time pe yaad aata hai
apna rasta dekho dadaji
:sad:
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ravi goyal
+1 # ravi goyal 2011-11-14 02:40
we will opposev at any cost:sad:
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devika singh
+2 # devika singh 2011-11-10 04:57
i think MR. Kapil Sibal should be appear for class 12th as well as for iit jee...... then only he'll understand what a student feels when he/she listens bout such a foolish decision..... :sad: such a foolish person he is!!! what he think bout us.. let him know that we r too human beings not machines....... ... how can we secure 80% in 12th board exams with the preparation for iit jee?????
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enlightened
+1 # enlightened 2011-10-19 08:52
Why the minister is playing with the education system without heeding to the advice of IIT Directors?
Standing committee on higher education?
Is he simply not aware about the lack of any quality in school education?
UPSC, BITS, Gate were taking board marks weightage earlier, they started having students from Bihar only.
The system was discontinued.
Why the minister is hell bent on destroying the IITJEE, that has become the bench mark?
already the IITs are under tremendous pressure of tolerating reserved category students/Profes sors due to increased seats.
The faculty student ratio has become very adverse.
Who is to blame for all this
Why subjective system/ pre mains system/ english papers were removed ?
Now they complain about falling standards
Who is responsible for all this
Whose interest is being watched
are foreign universities involved
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Shidhar
0 # Shidhar 2011-10-19 01:30
abee sibl teri IIt ka get saaaaaf krne ki aukt hai kya?
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r chawla
0 # r chawla 2011-10-17 08:14
Mr kapil sibal Go to villages where school teachers even cant solve d problems of their respective Boards...see d places where female teachers spend their whole scheduled time in preparing Woolens for family..r such people going 2 give IITians n NITians to our country through board exams?
just think about d centres where board paper leaks out before d exams every year...so u want such dumb asses in IITs n NITs??? y dont u try to improve system to our school boards instead of doin such unpractical n unrealistic things which is gonna kill d quality of our top institutions for technical education.

n Mr. narayanamurthy. .when i was a student in NIT jaipur, your company was just a " bulk hiring" for us... it was not d Dream Company even for a single individual...fi rst u improve your mentalities n packages for hiring only den talk bout d quality of ours...
u should calculate d ratio of candidates hired from IITs NITs n some gud colleges to the candidates joined ur company after their graduations..
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satkartar singh
0 # satkartar singh 2011-10-16 05:51
sir,, apka decision bilkul theek hai, we r with u
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IITAXpress
0 # IITAXpress 2012-04-04 00:24
right
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Ajay rai
+2 # Ajay rai 2011-10-15 02:43
Dear Friends I really oppose this idea because in school only syllabi can be completed by school teachers but they cant go with the concept of the subjects.. School teachers and students are involved in so many other activity rather than studing that they cann't understand the subject. Our minister should watch Tare Jamin Par and 3 idiots once after that i hope that his idea will definetly changed. He is very much inspired with Arakshan.
All the best guys
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BITTU KUMARI
0 # BITTU KUMARI 2011-10-10 20:41
One thing I want to know that how much weight age will be given on the marks obtained on 12th board or 80 to 85 % marks is just criteria to appear in entrance exam? Before taking any decision Kapil Sibbal ji please look into the IIT students,on an average how much marks in percentage they had secured in 12th board?
Such type of decision shows that our government is not able to improve the present scenario of education level,that's why they are trying to choose short cut way.
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BITTU KUMARI
+1 # BITTU KUMARI 2011-10-10 20:38
One thing I want to know that how much weight age will be given on the marks obtained on 12th board or 80 to 85 % marks is just criteria to appear in entrance exam? Before taking any decision Kapil Sibbal ji please look into the IIT students,on an average how much marks in percentage they had secured in 12th board?
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BITTU KUMARI
+1 # BITTU KUMARI 2011-10-10 20:34
]One thing I want to know that how much weight age will be given on the marks obtained on 12th board or 80 to 85 % marks is just criteria to appear in entrance exam? Before taking any decision Kapil Sibbal ji please look into the IIT students,on an average how much marks in percentage they had secured in 12th board?
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Dwimu baglary
+1 # Dwimu baglary 2011-10-06 06:59
everything is unussual , think bout state board n ICSE students jus bull s...t stupid thinking Frgt bout it n
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Dwimu baglary
+2 # Dwimu baglary 2011-10-06 06:56
M very sorry but tis is stupid thinking by mr Sibbal , notin to sy in tish stupid matter , stupid descision, person st:sad::sad:pid person
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priyanka
0 # priyanka 2011-09-30 22:46
Getting 80% in cbse board is easy task bt in state board its more difficult...... ... so those who are in state board they shud left the dream to join iit... i thnk its not gud decision taken by MR. sibal...IT will creat a big gap b/w cbse board and state board..
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Parul Gupta
+1 # Parul Gupta 2011-09-30 20:46
This is a ridiculous proposal.....wa t about students from state boards ? state boards like u.p dont award that high percentages ......so would it mean that they r not as intelligent and aptitudous as c.b.se or i.c.s.e students who score relatively high g;es? and how on earth are poor kids supposed to prepare for 12th and jee wen he has to get at leat 85% in 12th to get into iit with the no of attempts limitation to 2 only ? on 1 hand this idiotic sibbal talks of taking off the burden off kids shoulders while he himself is over burdening them ? its unfair on students esp under privilegded kids bcoz in states like u.p, parents who cant afford high profile schools or pvt schools as a matter of fact prefer state board schools that r not that costly and they score as high as national boards..... so does it maen that a super brilliant kid who scores 70% in state board (prob from an underpriviledge d class) shouldnt get into iit , right ?
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hemantkgoyal
+2 # hemantkgoyal 2011-09-22 08:13
Ok mr. Kapil Sibal for once let's think upon ur idea
Your idea is quite gud this idea is great for the students who are not engaged in any universities they would also be able to get admission in iit's and it would be financtially gud for their parent also and in iit more number of educated students(i.e.fr om the point of view of cbse) would take admission

Now let's think from other view(which is more realistic in my opinion )
The year, in which this idea would be passed as a rule the, for most of the students enrolled in iit entrance exam would be having no way to go on . Their life would be vanished as most of the students think of cbse just as a way to have entry in iit entrance exams so they just tries to have only 60+ marks only
ok let us forget about this fact for once as this would be having no affect when before passing this idea students are told about this two years ago

now let me introduced u from one more fact
U are forcing all this so that students enrolled in iit would also concerne about cbse but do you know in present time in most of school teachers use to teach students in a manner that do not give them the actual knowledge they just forces students to learn everything ( even in practicals teachers tell student to learn the readings instead of actually performing the activities or experiments ) and to revise everything it never gives students a logical ability to think in a logical manner but as we (students ) enroll in iit gains ability to think in a logical manner and it also gives them the actual knowledge hidden after every concept or topic then why u are forcing to reduce the iit strenghth i m not capable of understanding this
please look after my view i m waiting anxiously for someone's reply for this post
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Rakesh Narang @ Wizard Journal
+1 # Rakesh Narang @ Wizard Journal 2011-09-17 10:02
Kapil Sibal doesn't deserve to Education Minister. He and his policies suck to the core.

I agree, School Teachers are worthless, it is not that they don't know, it's that they don't how to teach.

But, I think that JEE is a competitive exam, so jo bhi hoga, sabke liye, hoga, sirf ek particular, padhaku ke liye nahi. So Chiil...!
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ranu rana
+1 # ranu rana 2011-09-16 22:37
what do this about the student who r preparing jee ......... already the compitition is so tough . making subjective paper of iit the examination may be more tough n who student r already prepared 4 objective how they give the objective +subjective paper this is wrong for student
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dr g.s.thind
+1 # dr g.s.thind 2011-09-09 00:02
mr sibal i am giving coaching to iit jee studends from last 6 years there no teacher in any school of mt district who can teach iit sllybus.they dont know the abc of iit sllybus.if u really want to improve the education system then teach u r cbse teacher first the full slyybus of iit then change ur policy NACHNA NA AYE AUR ANGAN TEDDA" STUPID MANISTER
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Vivek bhargav
-1 # Vivek bhargav 2011-07-02 04:42
The 40% board's exams are according to IIT/jee patten then schools must be teachs at higher levels and according to new patten.after that pupils must be serious amongst the board exams and all the problems are solve automatically.
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Vivek bhargav
0 # Vivek bhargav 2011-07-02 04:37
I think there is no comparison between school studies and IIT/jee couching classes. Because in schools we study basics but in couching institutes we studies on higher level.firstly basic should be clear.From this sight this proposal is wright.But there is one more suggestion if the 40&#xof; board exams are according to the IIT patten then the schools must be studies according to the new patten of board.Hence all the problem will solve automatically.A fter that pupils must be serious amongst board exam also.
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HIMANSHU BANSAL
0 # HIMANSHU BANSAL 2011-03-28 11:36
Its just that HRD minister now shuld be elected by students i think because they(students) are the people on whom this has to be acted upon so why others elect hrd minister i say .secondly, scoring in boards as well as entrance is not a joke we are also humans ,college has been a waste to students completely it is grossly unfruitful ,college is a waste of time and also diverges students minds .i had heard that " no knowledge without college".but the kalyug has turned it upside down "no knowledge in college." i wuld say colleges to be shut down and collegiate professors are no worth to coachin classes. this is somethin like energy at the cost of nothing which is unrealistic. kapil sibal wuld never be elected as hrd minister again he shukld undrtd pilgrims asre nearer than politics.:sad:
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vatg
0 # vatg 2011-01-17 19:47
the proposal by mr. kapil sibal in unacceptable as school doesnt provide enough facilities that a student can crack iit-jee. the iit exam is one having a humongous syllabus and the most difficult exam in the world? They expect us to prepare for JEEs all by ourselves AND cope up with school-schedule ((most of them hardly co-operate with JEE aspirants and demand we pay great attention to hardly useful or productive activities in the name of "extra-curricul ars")) AND do very nicely in board exams.This is a stupid idea based on ignorant notions and almost inhumane expectations from students.Most of the teachers in almost all schools in India are hardly qualified to teach the ABCs for JEEs and, most of them just come in babble out mugged up lines and leave the classroom hardly caring about whether students have understood the topic or not. They are not dust compared to coaching institutes' teachers.
Most of the schools consume up students' time with unnecessary 100% unproductive and unfruitful activities and subjects that we will hardly have any use for and there are idiots who think it should be easy for an aspirant to get 80-85% marks in boards.
i think the initial system is very good and coaching centers are best.
I dont wanna any change in the system.
:sad::sad::sad: :sad:
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palash shah
0 # palash shah 2010-10-12 17:57
"kapil sibbal" i think he is a heartless guy..............:sad:

i think he haven't passed 12 class yet

80-85% children .... they will only get it & woun't get selected in iit

i am very very angry with:sad: him.. stupid ..
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akhil gupta
0 # akhil gupta 2010-09-20 22:42
He is not oding right on the part of the iit aspirants bcz there many students who qualified in iit exams but get 50-60 % marks on average.
In my opinion the presnet criteria of 60&#xma;rks is better than what is going to be followed in future.
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Abhishek
0 # Abhishek 2010-06-02 18:58
I think this is an foolish proposal. We at ISC board have to study double course as our course is far too different from JEE or CBSE's..... Let Mr. Sibbal try to be at our place and take all the presure and exams that we have too........ And yeah what about State boards students..... finding students who have crossed 60% is a rare sight there and Mr. MINISTER is looking for 80 percentilers... . LOL!!!! How hard he may try but he himself cannot cross 60% alongwith IIT JEE preparations......
and talking about coaching institutes..... it is solely upon the decision of students where they wanna go..... Just tell me WHO WON"T EXPLOIT YOU IF YOU WOULD LET THEM DO IT!!!!!!!
P.S. I took coaching for two years from the best center in my town @55,000(aprox for two years).... and yes the State topper is from there every year as far as I know.....
So Mr. Minister you need review your decision once more......... 60% is perfect!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!
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SURAJ
0 # SURAJ 2009-11-05 05:03
I think kapil sibbal is right in taking the step of raising the eligiblity percentage fot IIT-JEE.I support his descision as it is just heart breaking for a student who gets 90 odd percentage and still not qualify for IIT-JEE,reason being "COACHING CENTRES".They just keep fooling students and their parants showing the results of candidates which can be found at every coaching centre.Those,wh ose fortune is good,may find moon in the broad day light,in some institutes,but that is all about luck and board toppers who unfortunately fall in trap of business men miss out.
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abhinandan jain
0 # abhinandan jain 2009-10-22 13:09
i just wanna say dat illiterate ministers like kapil sibbal should be hanged till death for betterment.
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SIDHANT
0 # SIDHANT 2009-10-21 06:48
Ok ! If you want us to get rid of coaching centres then atleast provide us with such faculties in school that will help us to crack exams like IIT JEE.We are also not interested in breaking our heads and get crushed b/w the entrance study and the school study.
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naman
+1 # naman 2009-10-20 15:27
well mr. sibal wants us to achieve 80-85% in 12th boards simultaneously preparing for the jee 2011 well this can be made a wise decission if he also remove the extra jee topics from the 12th board syllabus and making the jee completely cbse based .than we can give importance to the boards and can clear jee at the same time . if we think in another way mr. sibal is completely right on his part as every coaching institute is grasping about rs. 1.5 lakhs from each student and leaving them nowhere in between of cbse and jee .
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Content Team
+1 # Content Team 2009-10-20 10:28
yeah u are right...if this rule is implelemted then i think it will be impossible for state board students to get through JEE...

i think the government(spec ially sibal) shud use their brains while giving such rude decisions :sad:
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Mridula Mishra
0 # Mridula Mishra 2009-10-20 09:48
I am not agree with such decision. They should do some deduction in % for other state board students. They are also well genious. In this way only cbse/isce board students get the chance.
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apurv adarsh
+2 # apurv adarsh 2009-10-20 05:50
well,its a bit easy 4 da cbse students who hav ncert books in their syllabus.but wat about icse?
our books are da most uninteresting and have to learn loads of derivations and definitions.
while 'MR. MINISTER'is trying hard to curb these coaching classes monopoly.and dats a good move.
but since dese old head maggots have no idea wat we hav to go thru.
'Mr.MINISTER DID YOU EVER SIT FOR A JEE EXAM?'
wat bout da STATE BOARD students, they hardly get 80%.
da POOR GENIUSES of villages how will they qualify?





70-75% would have been ok!!!
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Priyank Kumar
+1 # Priyank Kumar 2009-10-19 21:39
This is an unacceptable proposal. What do they think students are? Learning machines? They expect us to be good students in boards as well as prepare for IIT-JEE at the same time, the latter having a humongous syllabus and the most difficult exam in the world? And whats with the "Get rid of coaching institutes" bull talk? They expect us to prepare for JEEs all by ourselves AND cope up with school-schedule ((most of them hardly co-operate with JEE aspirants and demand we pay great attention to hardly useful or productive activities in the name of "extra-curricul ars")) AND do very nicely in board exams.This is a stupid idea based on ignorant notions and almost inhumane expectations from students.People who approve of it are no more than pseudo-intellec tual dumb asses who have only one mugged up filmy line about students is that they should pay more attention to their studies and work hard and do whatever the system wants them to no matter how realistically possible it is.

Most of the teachers in almost all schools in India are hardly qualified to teach the ABCs for JEEs and, most of them just come in babble out mugged up lines and leave the classroom hardly caring about whether students have understood the topic or not. They are not dust compared to coaching institutes' teachers and this Sibal calls the latter "shops", maybe he is just insecure that there are institutions on which students rely that are not under his control Most of the schools consume up students' time with unnecessary 100% unproductive and unfruitful activities and subjects that we will hardly have any use for and there are idiots who think it should be easy for an aspirant to get 80-85% marks in boards.

The naive shit-heads who think mugging-up is not necessary to get 85% in boards while preparing IIT-JEEs syllabus need to wake up and get a reality check.
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apurv adarsh
-1 # apurv adarsh 2009-10-19 16:05
good move....
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anjalif
+2 # anjalif 2012-03-21 11:50
saale takle IIT ka matlab kya jaane tu..jaltmaar kahin ka..
cbse teachers are fucked off ... they are mugged up
they have 10 and more years mugging experience..no innovation... desh ko barbad kar rahe hain.....
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himanshu dhepe
0 # himanshu dhepe 2012-05-18 19:41
raise the competetion level more so that student should focous on the 12 board and iit jee incude aptittude so that brain does need to mug evry time thank you for new pattern

from himanshu dhepe to kapil sibal
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